And why do these system restrictions exist despite being unlawful for about a decade now?
Not updating your payroll software isnât unlawful. If the company follows regulations and accepts all SEPA IBANs, the law does not care how this is achieved.
Here, @Suemaggs asks for a timeline for something that Revolut is going to do anyway, because it would make his job easier. Thatâs all, no?
Weâll see, letâs report him/her to the Central Bank of Ireland and see what they say about their systems not accepting all SEPA IBANs
The employer does accept foreign IBANs. They apply a workaround to make it possible.
(The company could potentially report the payroll system provider, whatever that means, a third party bookkeeping company or just the software distributor. But maybe the employer just didnât implement recent changes because the number of foreign IBANs is so small that the workaround is the more economical option to comply. Here, an employer simply asked about the timeline of something Revolut is already changing. Heâs not trying to avoid compliance or responsibility. At least, this is how I understand the situation.)
Itâs still discrimiation if it doesnât work same as with âlocal IBANâ, trust me, I have never accepted companies in germany that tell me that I can use a non-DE IBAN by other means (snail mail, telephoneâŚ) if their online systems donât accept them and I always won in the end.
DISCLAIMER: As mentioned otherwhere on the forum I am a little bit on the autism spectrum and I just cannot accept things that arenât âcorrectâ in my eyes, and I use every possible legal means to my disposal to archive my goals - but I donât mean any harm.
Thatâs the point. No one is being discriminated! Employees get their salary to an LT IBAN. Itâs cumbersome for the employer, but who cares! The question comes from an employer, not an employee. The burden here is exclusively on the side of the employer.
The employer does not refuse LT IBANs. It just means more work for the payroll department. Not for the employee.
How do you know that?
I am SURE that the employees are asked to enter a ânormal IBANâ first by the 1st level HR department trained monkeys.
Or do you have any reason to believe otherwise?
He wrote âAs an employerâ. The âcompanyâ was asking the question about the timeline here. And the initial question also confirmes that employees with LT IBAN have been and still are employed. There is simply no evidence that it caused them any problems.
Doesnât convince me, at all.
Let alone the other impacts of using a payroll system that hasnât been updated in a decade.
Companies need to be responsible.
Bottom line: Letâs agree to disagree
The thing is I do agree with you that IBAN discrimination should be reported. But itâs obvious what the initial post was about. It says so literally in the first sentence that itâs not about an employee being discriminated here.
An employer says here literally that âpayrollâ has more work. Thatâs it.
Every company has the right to make bookkeeping as complicated for them as they want to. (It was me who said it might be the result of software that wasnât updated.) It doesnât matter really why they use a âsystemâ that complicates things for them. Their choice. Following regulations matters, not how you achieve it.
I can absolutely assure you all there is no discrimination here, the employees are being paid with no issue into their LITH IBAN. It is not causing the employee any issue, they donât even realise there is a manual workaround.
Its simply a question âwhen will all Irish Revolut customers have an Irish IBANâ so that I can manage the business expectations of how long the workaround will need to continue.
Do you ask every other bank about that, too?
Letâs say I come to work for you with my german UniCredit account, will you ask UniCredit germany to provide IE-IBANs? They will laugh at you.
Come one, it is discrimination, because people without IE IBANs are handled differently from others. Think about it. Sad that in 2023 people still need to be educated about what discrimination really is about
It would be much better to simply do something about your outdated payroll system instead of wasting your time with what you are doing here now.
But I will stop visiting this thread here now, clearly not getting through here.
This will be my last comment, I tried my best to raise awareness about the real issue. Thatâs all I can do.
Hereâs the thing: I do understand your point. Your message is clear. I just donât agree with you. IBAN discrimination is a serious problem. But this case is not. There is no discrimination.
IBAN discrimination is defined as denial of accepting international IBANs. The company is not denying IBANs. It is handling the internal payment process a little differenty. It was confirmed that the employee doesnât even notice it. The is no material difference between how employees are treated. As an employee, you wonât be able to make an argument for discrimination. Every regulator would decline intervention, theres no possible regulatory action here. The employer fulfils all legal and regulatory requirements.
Your argument about UniCredit is a âwhataboutismâ.
(Remember this: no one was asking Revolut to please offer Irish IBANs. The question was about a timeline for something that Revolut has announced is happening anyway.)
@FOB @Suemaggs Hello and Greetings from the community.
@Frank @slz Thank you for engaging in such an intense discussion. I appreciate your active participation and the valuable insights shared.
Veda | Community Team
I still donât have the answer I was after - do you know when all Irish customers will be given their Irish IBAN please?
@Suemaggs Although it is true that a large number of eligible customers have already been migrated to the Irish branch (over 2 million), the process is not fully completed yet. All remaining eligible users will continue to be migrated in a phased manner starting from 2 months after the date of the legal notice they received via email.
Thank you for your understanding. I kindly request your patience as we work towards resolving this issue.
Veda | Community Team
Veda, you did not address the question above. Starting 2 moths from receiving the legal notice???
This is pretty clear, but the question is when will we receive the legal notice?
thanks
Itâs sad, in my household Iâm the only one without an Irish IBAN. The online help are unable to give a straight answer why Iâve not migrated yet. Iâm also the only one that actually need an Irish IBAN, Iâm the one paying the bills. There is defiantly some more sinister reason why this has not happened to some people. Maybe something about being metal accounts? Donât know?
Frustrating to say the leastâŚ
Totally agree. The online help is completely useless. Same answer in a few different ways.
Months passed, still waiting
Hello everyone ,
I understand your concern regarding Irish IBAN. Please keep in mind that there are specific requirements you need to meet to be eligible for this option. If youâre eligible, youâll receive email communication, and your account will be migrated to the branch automatically. Hope that helps.
Welcome to our community @IanP.
SG | Community Team